Losing salvation

Connections List
 * HS
 * Salvation
 * 1 John 2
 * TULIP (Calvinism)
 * 1 Peter 1
 * Ephesians 1
 * Election
 * Age of Accountability
 * Matthew 24
 * Mortal sin, apostasy
 * Core gospel

Scope
 * TULIP item Perseverance of the saints
 * also arguments for being able to lose slavation
 * also how to know if you are saved (evidence, not theo gospel)

Topics
 * Mech/discussion/possible mechanisms
 * For perseverance
 * Know you are saved
 * Against perseverance
 * Ambiguous

DISCUSSION / possible mechanisms/explanations for perseverance Sanct Apostasy Lazy/Faithful Normal Salvation "Run as to win the prize" by John Shriner, stuff Calvinism, Heb 6+10, perseverance
 * 1 Cor 1:8 connect to 1 Thess 5:22-23 seems to be sanctification. In these though sanctification is promised.
 * 1 Peter 1:10 confirm calling/election via works/sanct
 * Heb 3:14, harden hearts. Heb 6 and 10.
 * It is possible that there is some categorical reward or change in experience for people who do not stray in a major way, possibly specifically in the end times.
 * End times (Matt 10:22, 24:12, Mk 13:13) followed by Matt parables on virgins, talents, and sheep and goats seems to indicate is a salvation issue.

FOR PERSEVERANCE 1 John 2:19 their going showed that none of them belonged to us 1 Peter 1:5 you are sheilded through faith by God's power until the coming of salvation Ephesians 1:13 marked with a seal which is the HS, guaranteeing our inheritance until the 2nd coming 1 Cor 1:8 "He will keep you strong to the end, so that you will be blameless on the day of our Lord Jesus Christ." cf 1 Thess 5:22-23. Also "strong to the end" like Matt 24:12. 2 Cor 1:22 seal of ownership, guaranteeing Romans 11:29 God's gift and his call are irrevocable (Israel as a whole) John 10:28-29 "I give them eternal life, and they will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand. My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all, and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father's hand." Matt 7:23 "I never knew you" - apparent loss of salv, but never knew to begin with John 6:37 "whoever comes to me I will never drive away"
 * in context of antichrists, so may be of less weight
 * "but you have an anointing from the Holy One" indicating HS is good measure

HS seal in us in general, knowing you are saved 1 John 3:24 we know that he lives in us via HS 1 John 4:13 we know God lives in us via spirit 1 John 5:13 "I write these things to you...so that you may know that you have eternal life." - on permanent of continous basis?

AGAINST PERSEVERANCE Lutherans (at least Amundson grandparents) believe salvation can be lost at will Matt 13:19 parable of seeds. Grow fast but weeds choke Hebrews 6 and 10. Tasted the HS but rejects. Sin of apostasy. Heb 3:14 "We have come to share in Christ if we hold firmly till the end the confidence we had at first." 2 Pet 1:10 do everything to confirm your calling and election

AMBIGUOUS 1 John 5:13-21 confusing