JC death atonement

Front matter
Connections List
 * JC Firstborn
 * Sacrifices
 * Salvation
 * JC death house
 * Justification
 * Zechariah 3
 * JC death punishment, hell
 * Err salv methods
 * Forgiveness
 * Atonement vocab
 * Cross Event
 * JC death concept

Scope
 * How does JC death pay for things?
 * NOT how JC death applies to us. That is in connection JC sac/house

Topics
 * Rand
 * Mech
 * Atonement theories
 * Verses demonstrating mechanics*
 * JC is sufficient thoughts

Mech
Mech
 * See summary in Atonement vocab.
 * Maybe JC suffered separation from God while retaining devotion to God, such that he could be brought back? Is death the same thing as separation from God?

Mechanics in verses
 * God raises JC from the dead (or does JC of his own accord?)
 * Pro: Acts 2:24, 3:15, 4:10, 5:30, 10:40, 13:30, 13:34, Rom 4:24, 6:4, 7:4, 8:11, 10:9, Gal 1:1, Eph 1:20, Col 2:12, 1 Pet 1:21.
 * Verses indicate FG, NOT FG>HS>raise JC, esp Gal 1:1, Eph 1:20
 * John 10:18 "No one takes it from Me, but I lay it down of My own accord. I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again. This charge I have received from My Father.”
 * Assume authority given by father (e.g. great comission) therefore FG is still source
 * JC is the firstborn of the dead (see connection)
 * 1 Pet 2:23 JC entrusted himself to he who judges justly

Atonement theories (see also Atonement vocab)
I see no conflict between the first four. All may operate simulateously. 1,2 and 4 might be combined in penal substitution False ones
 * Punitive***God & us side - (possibly req house to transfer)
 * House (nathan)**JC & us side
 * See connection
 * Supported by William Lane Craig, join me in my study 44.
 * Restorative**World side
 * Ransom***Satan/sin & us side
 * Governmental (similar but not identical punishment)
 * Moral influence - cross is a moral guide/example

Jc is sufficent, his death is enough because

 * He is example, firstborn, like us
 * He had all sin on him, whereas we had just our own, but he still passed
 * He was counted as if he had sin, cursed for us, he had no special advantage to be included in the atonement group because of his perfection, it just provided for all
 * God can do anything, who are you to limit him? Who are you to be so proud, thinking your sin is that great? It's not. God is much bigger. Be humble in that way.
 * JC may have passed into hell and back. This may be farther than you will pass.
 * Because God outside of time, he paid for all your past and future sins.
 * Paul makes the case in 1 Tim 1:15-16. God saved Paul, chief of sinners, to show his great patience to those who would believe (later?).

Uncategorized
Rand
 * Why did Jesus have to be sinless? Is it just part of Gods law (cf Narnia)
 * Or why, if our sin was put on JC, was he still in some way sinless? - Imputation vs infusion. See atonement vocab.
 * Prov 16:6 sin atoned via love and faithfullness. - due to 2nd phrase (fear of lord>avoid evil) it means obey God > he forgives
 * God forgets guilt/sin - Heb 8:12, 10:17, Is 43:25, Jer 31:34 - seems to be only occurrences in bible.
 * Ps 49:7-9 "No one can redeem the life of another...no payment is ever enough, so that they should live on forever..." all men die.
 * If you still feel guilty (kindof) you might doubt JC work on cross for you.
 * Jc was fulfilling promise to old generations, also paying in advance to any who would accept in future. Does defeat death generally, nor defeat his killers (or convert them), but only defeats death for those who choose him.

More Verses
 * 1 Cor 15:15 about the ressurrection of the dead
 * Rom 8:11, Eph 1:19-20 spirit who raised JC is living in you, used in you
 * Romans 6 & 7 - united w/JC, death breaks contracts.
 * Hebrews 1:3 after he had provided purifications for sins he sat down..
 * 2 Cor 4:14 god raised JC will and will raise us with him as package to self
 * God forgave, not JC. e.g. Eph 4:32 but I bet other verses much better.
 * 1 John 4:10 atoning sacrifice for our sins (use greek lang)
 * 2 Cor 5:21 God made him who had no sin to be sin for us. See also Galatians 3:13 JC becomes curse(d) for us
 * Zech 3 Satan accuses Joshua, who is dressed in rags. He is a burning stick snatched from the fire. Put new clothes on him. Remove sin in a single day.
 * Zech 5 The sin of all people, personified as a woman, put into a basked with lead cover and carried by two winged women to Babylon. A house is being built there for it. When it is finished the basked will be placed there.
 * John 10:18 JC has power to lay down life and pick it up - in contrast to FG raising JC.